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Events and Occasions / Re: All of Ossus
« on: 01/14/19, 03:19:52 PM »
Would love to join in but I wonít have gotten the new content out of the way before joining in, got a fair bit of catching up to do.

@Hawking, how far back are you?

Can you blitz the remaining story content before the 17th?

Iím not even back in the country until the 16th, sadly, and Iíll be needing to update the game and so on.

Events and Occasions / Re: All of Ossus
« on: 01/14/19, 01:54:55 AM »
Would love to join in but I wonít have gotten the new content out of the way before joining in, got a fair bit of catching up to do. Iíll be around for the debrief and fallout, if that carries on into jedi night or whatever else follows!

Events and Occasions / Re: A Dread Mind
« on: 07/18/18, 07:38:09 AM »
Regrettably I must withdraw due to clashing work commitments, the demons in upper management have decreed that my attendance to their slave factory is compulsory on pain of death.

Hope it's a good time, very keen to RP the fallout!

Worldbuilding and Community / Re: Jedi and mental disorders
« on: 06/26/18, 08:40:22 PM »
This has been on my mind, too, given all of Aspasia's various strife-filled episodes and lived experiences. Echoing what Bling, Niarra and Wymarc have said said, I find the intersection between Jedi philosophy and Jedi science to be the best bit of this discussion. To what extent is the disease treated as a medical issue when it has the potential to fundamentally affect the mental and psychic faculties that are necessary to Jedi-ing? Could the Jedi use their tele-empathetic abilities and advanced understanding of medical science to treat the physiological and biological elements of the afflictions? Could the Force be somehow used to manage serotonin and dopamine in the way that we do in the real world with medication?

More importantly, would they? Or would a therapeutic approach be more in line with Jedi spirituality, given that overcoming emotional adversity and enduring trauma is a part of the Jedi path? The Jedi do practice healing through the Force when they could theoretically just use standard 'mortal' medicine for physical injury, would that change when the brain and by extension mind are threatened or injured, when so much of the Force is construed mentally? In a weird way it's a philosophical argument that would be more pronounced in the setting than in real life, although there are similar debates in discussions regarding the ability of people to serve in the armed forces or policing with mental illness. They're debilitating things to live with for we mere earthling mortals, let alone for space wizards who have a sworn (and potentially rather stressful) duty to defend all life, and who throw things around with their minds. If that wasn't enough, they have stringent beliefs about the management of emotion and behaviour, two things which can be fundamentally and dramatically affected by mental illness. It opens up a can of worms that is certainly pushing the limits of the setting, but surely symptoms such as mood swings would present a serious threat to a Jedi's capacity to Jedi. If Star Wars were a hard sci-fi piece rooted in realism, maybe we'd see Jedi falling to the dark side simply due to struggles with mental illness. That's a hard thing to convey without being trite and potentially dismissive of serious real world issues, and probably why things that may realistically result in legitimate psychological damage in the setting often manifest themselves more as ambiguous emotional responses of 'deep sorrow', 'spiritual exhaustion', and so on. They're expressed as less direct, symbolic representations to get the same feeling across. This is probably why you also get more holistic approaches to healing these things in the fiction, by way of undertaking spiritual journeys or confronting the source of the trauma in a fantastical (or not) way. Same goes for expressly medical problems; this is space magic, waving your hands without delving too deeply into the science is a legitimate and even preferable way of mending flesh. For our purposes, the Force is an excellent narrative device for this reason; it's all about the intersection between the will, behaviour and feelings of the individual and the giant energy thing which lets you perform superhuman feats, including healing, provided you play by its rules and work within its limitations.

Went wildly off topic here, but, I'll surmise by referring to how the Legend of Korra dealt with this issue, with some spoilers from Book 4. Spiritual damage and psychological damage are treated as roughly equivalent. The magic water can fix the body, but healing the mind to an extent where the injured person can fulfill their responsibilities and make use of their abilities is a journey and a battle requiring dedication and some suffering.

Side note: does make you wonder how this sort of thing would be dealt with by the Sith, if dealt with at all? Separate thread, maybe.


Echoing what bling said regarding how it would be LIKELY treated; nothing invasive. Using the Force in limited magnitude to guide recovery over time, fiddling with the biology where absolutely necessary. Oddly, a bit like we do in the real world, permitting a swap of the Force for technology and medicine. Maybe there aren't any better answers in space for this?


LEAD KNIGHT: Ran-del Qardaak
ASSOCIATES: Pdw. Aspasia Maguire (form. Aspasia Cullen, refer to personnel file. Can't believe I'm bringing this back.)
SECURITY LEVEL: Knights and all relevant superiors
REPORT LODGED BY: Pdw. Aspasia Maguire, Consummate Professional


Knight QARDAAK and Padawan MAGUIRE investigated heat signatures on planet MAGUIRE, thought to be uninhabited following the disastrous investigation by Master SHATARI and Padawan ALTENAR prior to the Zakuul invasion. Survivors found on a large island off the main continent, mostly unaware of what had transpired on the mainland save for local superstition. Town of Deakin seemingly the main hub of this island. Qardaak and Maguire investigated, made contact with locals. Local customs reminiscent of Padawan Maguire's own lived experiences on the mainland (refer to file on that, please. Not taking any more questions.), warranted further investigation. Local force sensitive children greatly endangered. Planet beyond holofrequency range, leaving Qardaak and Maguire on their own. Local dark side adepts (comprising of former Sith, Jedi, Zakuulans and even Dread Masters) seized the children with the blessing of the town, intending to carry them to the 'Ladies of the Night', local gods and subjects of an ongoing investigation, thought to be highly dangerous force adepts and possibly former Jedi (Or even Je'daii. Again, refer to the file. Ongoing investigation.). Qardaak and Maguire pursued and engaged the cultists, known as the Coven, dispatching most of them. Potential survivors, true numbers unknown. Batch of 32 children liberated and extracted before they could be transferred to the 'haunted' mainland via boat. Townsfolk unaware of the children's rescue, issue will continue to be systemic unless the Order returns to put an end to it and investigate the root cause, in this Padawan's own valuable opinion.

32 children currently residing at the Enclave on Coruscant, awaiting vetting for suitability. Many earmarked as perfect candidates for Jedi training. They're a good bunch.

STATUS: Severely messed up, but ongoing. Further action on Maguire to come. Recommend more people this time. More information available on request. Find me in the archives.

-Signed Pdw. A. Cullen. Maguire. Whatever.

Events and Occasions / Re: All Galaxy Combat Tournament
« on: 06/12/18, 10:37:46 PM »
Smackdown time.

Guild Recruiting / Re: Rp guilds?
« on: 06/05/18, 04:47:04 PM »
It so happens that one of the more active guilds you'll find on here is the Jedi Custodum (lots of info to be found here:;sa=view;gid=2), headed by @Dassalya, and of which I'm an officer alongside @blingdenston and @Wymarc! JC's long been one of the stalwarts of the community, been around for 5 or 6 years now as the Jedi guild. We host a Jedi Night event every Thursday, usually at our stronghold but occasionally elsewhere. If you're keen on checking us out, feel free to pop along, or get in contact with one of the above people!

Guild Recruiting / Re: Rp guilds?
« on: 06/04/18, 10:11:02 PM »
G'day Tenno, welcome to the forums! This whole place is dedicated to the RP guilds on Satele Shan which have shimmied over from the Begeren Colony server. If you have a look up top, the Guildnet feature lists most of them, although not all of them are active. What sort of RP are you looking for?

Outside Realm / Re: Solo: A Spoiler Thread
« on: 05/30/18, 06:56:31 PM »
Remains my biggest gripe with Rebels. The anthology style worked for the Clone Wars due to the setting, but it did the whole multi-episode arch thing. Rebels really should have been a linear story, in the style of Avatar.

What? It is...

Diverging from the thread, but, only the fourth season was really like that. The earlier three were chock full of meaningless or disconnected story beats with only real narrative development coming at the beginning and end of a season, often with a two-episode window in the middle where something significant happened. Beyond that, episodes didn't have a whole lot of continuity between each other

Outside Realm / Re: Solo: A Spoiler Thread
« on: 05/30/18, 06:08:14 PM »
From what I can tell? Yeah, kinda. It's what makes the shows feel real kids-y to me. I mean, it's meant to be a kids show, but so is Justice League Animated and that doesn't stop it from having buildup and dramatic tension.

Remains my biggest gripe with Rebels. The anthology style worked for the Clone Wars due to the setting, but it did the whole multi-episode arch thing. Rebels really should have been a linear story, in the style of Avatar.

Holocrons and Info Nodes / Re: Comments on Stories
« on: 05/30/18, 05:01:23 AM »

Just wanted to give a quick shout out for your ongoing story with Merrant and Asori. Never thought I'd see either of them in a political/crime thriller in space, but, it's made for some enthralling reading.

also screw the frogdogs #rotwormbandwagon

Outside Realm / Re: Solo: A Spoiler Thread
« on: 05/28/18, 09:25:17 PM »
...nor should Han and Lando be rendered slavesr and butchers forevermore, abusers and monsters without sentiment. That's...woof.

I've heard some thoughts that Han and Lando were portrayed too sympathetically here, particularly in the ending, to line up with their ANH and ESB counterparts. Which seems a bit ridiculous to me. I'll go back to what @Orell said:

It just saps A New Hope's scene with Han returning of a lot of heart. This time, he turned down the money for the right cause so much easier, Qi'ra's betrayal doesn't change that.

If I was writing it? The nascent rebels would've been wiped out, Kira Qi'ra and/or Woodie kill everyone but Han and Chewie and let them go for old time's sake. Give Han the unhappy backstory needed to justify why he'd turn his back on the Rebels in their hour of need, because these kids in this film? This wasn't their hour of need nearly as much. I... just can't see the Han that puts his life on the line to give some kids fuel and won in the end to turning his back on the Rebel Alliance because fuck you, he got paid.

I hope this is where the sequels, or...indirect sequels...or whatever it is we're getting, tidy this up a little. I think the Han we get at the end of Solo is the Han that comes back in ANH, not the one that leaves. His character is the quintessential 'smuggler with a heart of gold'. He's young here, and new to the big stage of the criminal underworld, and I actually kinda liked that his first inclination as a kid with a blaster and a new ship was to help people. Maybe that's why he comes full circle at the Death Star, and fuller circle still when he confronts Ben in TFA. Dude's got a good heart beneath his rough exterior, that's the primary DNA thread of his character. As Churchill said: '[CORELLIANS] will always do the right thing, after exhausting all the alternatives.'

So the question is, where does 'leaver' Han come from? The guy who ran from the Death Star and later from the Rebellion and his son. What happens to make him cynical and jaded? Qi'ra's departure is hinting at an unhappy reunion at some point, but as you said, the fact that it was indirect meant that Han didn't seem to need much prompting to palm a fortune off to some kids in the desert. Guess we'll see!

Holocrons and Info Nodes / Re: Tales from the Shatari Legacy
« on: 05/28/18, 07:56:01 AM »
"Aspasia! Padawan Maguire!"

Reading time was over, it seemed. Aspasia sighed and closed the book she'd been attempting to get through, yet another ancient and crumbling tome with a whimsical, flatulent writer who seemed more interested in putting together incomprehensible sentences than expounding anything useful to her. The sound of bare feet pattering rapidly through the aisles grew louder as the source of the voices closed in on her. She rubbed her eyes, feeling tired. They hurt. The fluorescent lamp she'd been reading by continued to bare down on her furiously, totally unphased by the dark night sky of Coruscant that lay beyond the thin windows of the archives.
But are they thick enough to contain this kriffin' brick? She pondered, hefting the dusty tome in her hand. Probably. It was disintegrating in her hand as is. Not that it had been of any use. Just like all the others, it had mentioned Maguire exactly twice. Both references had been in passing, and one, she was pretty sure, had been a typo.

Aspasia glanced up, weary, as a pair of young teen boys blasted around the corner.
"Gods above, slow down! The Archivist may not be here but ye know she's got cameras set up. And even if she didn't, she'd somehow figure it out anyway." Aspasia hissed as the boys slid to an awkward and uncontrolled halt in front of her. The excitement that had been etched on their faces vanished immediately, replaced by solemnness. They fixed her with a look.
"Are you threatening to dob on us, Padawan?" Asked the smaller one, a scruffy human called Adem who'd been plucked from the lower levels of Coruscant. His tone was somewhere between puppy dog and mafioso, and his face couldn't seemingly decide whether he was trying to plead or intimidate either.
"And if I am? You pair of ratbags could use a few more months in here. I was stuck here for-"
"A year, or whatever, we know." Replied the other, a tall and proud Kiffar boy called Caiyo. He wore his hair like Master Vos, and conspicuously lowered his voice to a deeply unconvincing macho growl whenever the older Kiffar was around.
Aspasia crossed her arms and put on her best high-and-mighty Master voice. "And look at me now. My time in these hallowed halls taught me patience, virtue and humility. Somethin' that you two could use."
They stared at her until she gave in and cracked up. They joined her, their laughter echoing around the cavernous space.
She recomposed herself, grin still etched on her face. "What've ye got for me, o minions of mine?"
"Well, firstly, think we need to renegotiate the whole 'minion' thing,' Adem started, 'it's demeaning. And illegal. It's basically the same thing as slavery. The only servitude we do is service to the Force. For the Force. Or whatever. Also slavery is illegal.'
"Not in my archives." Aspasia growled jokingly.
"Not your archives. Just because you've slept on half the books and kissed that one boy down here when you were a kid doesn't mean they're yours."
"Allegedly." Aspasia replied, clearing her throat.
Rat bastards. Never should have told them that.
The pair exchanged a look, suppressed a fresh bout of laughter, and then returned their gazes to her.
"Got some news for your master, figured we'd tell you first."
"Right. Glad you're both loyal enough to not do the right thing and go above my head-"

"They're too boneheaded for that." Came a voice, rich and warm, echoing from behind the boys. A girl walked in, dark of skin and with thick braided hair. The boys grinned, and Aspasia smiled.
"Evenin', Luk, just chastisin' our proteges. Apparently they've got somethin' interesting to tell me."
Padawan Lukhanyo Imawe strode over as she usually did, quietly and with the grace of a nexu, all poise and total, easy confidence. She was a fresh transplant to the Enclave, having arrived with her Master. They'd been all over the galaxy since the war against Zakuul and subsequent cleaning up, apparently, but had decided to return to the fold when they'd heard that the Custodum was making overtures to reintegrate with the Republic. Aspasia liked her, it was nice change of pace to have someone her age around again.
"Cool, I heard the racing around and assumed they were breaking things again. Go on then, don't let me interrupt." She cracked a smile, and Aspasia laughed.
"That was one time. And it was worth breaking. That Maguire stuff was creepy as hell. No offence, Spazzie, but that carving was in my damn dreams-" Caiyo protested.
"None taken. Believe me." Aspasia replied, smile faltering slightly. "Is that what this is about?"

Caiyo and Adem pursed their lips in unison and glanced at each other.
"Uh. Sorta. Guess we have two things."
Lukhanyo watched the pair with amusement, before her gaze settled on Aspasia. She said nothing. Aspasia smiled again, but felt uneasy. There'd been a recurring pit in her stomach these last few weeks, but she hadn't been able to put her finger on the what or why.
"Suspense is killin' me, boys."
They exchanged looks, and then spoke at the same time.
"The scans from the droid came back, it found heat signatures. We think there's something alive down on Maguire."
"We think the SIS is spying on the Enclave with senatorial and military backing."
"See? Told you I should go first, she's gone all pale again-"
"She's always pale, and Master Hantso taught us to get to the point first, but to soften it-"
"You think that was softening it?"
They continued bickering, hissing at each other.
"Boys, boys-" Aspasia protested in vain, attempting to get their attention without having to throw a book at them.
"You may need to repeat yourselves, gents, we're getting a bit old and hard of hearing." Lukhanyo interjected calmly, placing a hand on each of their shoulders. The boys shut up immediately.
How does she do that?

"You first, Adem."
"Right. Uh. Life on Maguire. We picked up positive thermal readings in the woodlands on the southern continent right before the probe got sucked into the nebula and eaten or whatever. Council wants someone to investigate. Uh. Carefully, after what happened last time."
Aspasia blinked, and felt herself exhale dramatically. She felt as though she'd just been slugged in the stomach by a heavyweight boxer, the wind knocked out of her.
"See? You killed her. Definitely pale. Nicely done, kathshit."
"Language." Lukhanyo interjected. Caiyo rolled his eyes and looked to retort, but instead fell silent.
"Spazzie? Y'hear me?"
"Aye. Yeah. Just...bit to digest. They want us to investigate? Me?"
"Well, you and your master, and whoever else wants to go, yeah. You know the place." Adem replied flippantly, looking pleased with himself. "Dunno why you're looking so grim about it. Not everyone gets to go to haunted planets, could be...uh...enlightening."
Stupid heart, stop racing. Been thinking about this for ages anyway, was only a matter of time. She breathed, and collected herself.
"Right. Maguire. Noted, thanks Adem."
Lukhanyo shot her a searching gaze, cocking an eyebrow. Aspasia ignored her, and turned to Caiyo.
"And you, Vos Jr., what's this other pressin' business?"
She saw his eyes light up at the mention of the name Vos.
"Oh, you know, the usual." He replied gruffly.
"I don't, that's why I'm askin'. And why you were in a rush to tell me."
"I heard some Shadows who are here on loan expressing some concerns about the SIS and military presence in the Enclave and on the Watch. They reckon we're being spied on. Council agrees."

That didn't surprise her, and certainly didn't knock the wind from her body. She'd felt the eyes. They all had. Ever since the Watch had been 'given' a delegation from the SIS and Republic Military, things had been different. The Jedi weren't distrustful by nature, quite the opposite, and the current times dictated that they work with their Republic allies to the best of their ability...but she'd heard some of the Masters expressing their concerns, just quietly. The garrison was getting nosy, and unfamiliar faces had started popping up in places they weren't necessarily welcome to be.
Not that we can say anything about it. They'd look secretive, opaque and elusive if they raised a stink. She'd never understood until recently why people didn't trust the Jedi. Aspasia didn't subscribe to that viewpoint (how could she, now?) but she was beginning to see why some folks felt that way. The last thing they needed was the public hearing from some jacked up senator that the Jedi had hijacked a Republic war vessel and refused to hand it back-
"Aspasia?" Lukhanyo's soft voice interrupted her line of thinking, and Aspasia snapped back to reality.
"Sorry. Processin'. Right. Military and SIS spyin' on us, what else is new?"
"That's the kicker. They thought it was just some bad edds or something in the departments who were getting a bit too curious-"
"Bad eggs, Cai." Adem corrected.
"Whatever. They think it could be a team now. Like a coalition of snobs from the government, spies and soldiers who have been put together to keep an eye on us. Because we're that dangerous and awesome."
Aspasia exchanged glances with Lukhanyo, wary.
" 'Spose we are, aye. But remember, boys, they're our people too. We're sworn to protect 'em."
"Someone tell them that." Adem deadpanned.
"We're trying, Adem." Lukhanyo replied with a frown. "There's a lot out there you haven't seen yet. You'll get your chance soon."
"Not if they're confined to the archives for spillin' secrets to Padawans who don't have clearance." Aspasia replied wryly. Lukhanyo shot her a vaguely disapproving look. Aspasia shrunk a little.
"But...uh...thanks, boys. I'll pass word along, and let the powers that be know ye did a good job delivering the message. Might get you out of here and doin' somethin' interesting sooner rather than later."
That seemed to reassure them. The two exchanged grins.
"Just doing what we do, Padawan." Caiyo replied coolly, before offering her a lazy bow and zooming off around the corner again.
Adem sighed, shook his head and regarded her. "Please don't bring back another tapestry. We filed the first one away under lock and key but I can still see it in my mind."
He offered her a nod, and then stomped off to track down his compatriot, slinging obscenities.

Aspasia scratched her neck awkwardly as silence fell between the two Padawans. Lukhanyo looked at her, smiling slightly.
"You handle them well."
Aspasia couldn't help herself but laughing. "Hah! You're...jokin', right? They tear around like a pair of cats in a holobooth, bloody miracle nothing is destroyed on a daily basis. That's not even mentioning the swearing, filing things in the wrong place, dropping things, falling asleep..."
"Familiar story, from what I hear. Not so different to a fiery little blonde girl who was constantly assigned to and from the archives in her yore."
Aspasia waved her off, cracking a crooked half-smile.
"Different enough. They're a lot less stupid."
"Nobody thinks you're stupid, Aspasia, certainly not the Masters and Knights. On the contrary. I've heard they're looking at speeding up your training, they're impressed with your progress. Might not be too long until you're knighted." Lukhanyo grinned. She was charismatic, that girl, but something about her still rubbed Aspasia the wrong way.
"Representin' the Enclave's Knights, huh? Nah. Not yet. That'd mean I'd have to be takin' on the responsibilities of talkin' to the public and helping with recruitment. I'm happy to wait a few years, maybe until the whole PR disaster blows over."
"Could be waiting a while. And the Order needs capable servants. As I hear it, you're more than ready."
"You're a flatterer, Imawe." Aspasia replied dryly, smile slowly fading. Lukhanyo's brown-orange eyes met her own amber-gold, studying her. Aspasia felt an odd chill race down her spine.
"Just a realist. Think we're a bit devoid of numbers currently, and we're the next cabs off the rank. Same thing happened during the Great War, and that was the generation that gave us Master Farworlder, Master Shatari and Master Jalth. We'll show 'em up, somehow. Maybe we could all have two lightsabers instead of one or something."
Aspasia chuckled, but the pit in her gut returned.
"Aye. Maybe. Or use...force pikes or somethin'."
"Hah! Yeah, maybe."

Silence reigned for a long few moments, before Lukhanyo thumbed over her shoulder.
"Alright. Better get going before my master puts out another all-points bulletin. Get yourself some sleep, Aspasia, you look tired. I'd recommend an actual bed."
"Right, way ahead of you." Aspasia replied with a yawn. Lukhanyo offered her a two-fingered salute in farewell, which Aspasia mirrored.
Weird. I knew Jedi from beyond the Enclave were different, but...weird. Still. Jedi were Jedi in this day and age, as divided and strange as things were.

Maybe that was enough.

Outside Realm / Solo: A Spoiler Thread
« on: 05/24/18, 11:27:15 PM »
A place for discussion regarding the new film. Obviously spoilers will abound, so enter at your own risk!

Personally, I was in the camp that believed that we never needed or wanted this film and that it would probably be a mess due to all the behind the scenes nonsense that was going on.

And yet, I loved it. Absolutely loved it. This is my favourite of the Great Evil Mouse's Star Wars films. It felt in keeping with the OT without being self-indulgent as Rogue One was. It was smartly written in a way that the ST hasn't been. The supporting cast were absolutely fantastic. The story was simple but effective, and the moments we were all dreading (goddamnit they're gonna do the Kessel Run, and it's gonna be lame), actually turned out to be done superbly. This film was like a big budget SmugCo adventure, including a bit involving a giant space demon in dark space that @blingdenston may want to push a lawsuit over.

I have to admit I was wrong regarding the casting of Han. Alden Ehrenreich may not look like Harrison Ford, but he absolutely gets the character. Han was fantastic, and seeing his canonical meeting with Chewie and the bond that grew from it was great. Donald Glover also nails it as Lando. Emilia Clarke is better here than in 7 seasons of Game of Thrones.

The cinematography and visuals were what stole the show for me, however. The planets and locations were memorable and wonderful. Kessel looked like something out of a Star Wars videogame from the 90s. The Maelstrom was gorgeous and terrifying. The aesthetics of the still-emerging Galactic Empire was super cool to see after having a number of films with all of that stuff already established; half-built star destroyers, conscripted soldiers wearing proto-Stormtrooper armour invading worlds in the quest for expansion. (Special shout-out to that last bit, the war sequence in Solo was a better war film than the entirety of Rogue One).

Most of all, the film was fun. It was a lot of fun, and would have been an enjoyable action-adventure romp even without the Star Wars label. It just so happens that it's a great action-adventure film whilst also being a great usage of the Star Wars setting (seriously, the worldbuilding was startlingly in-depth. They canonised Teras Kasi by name, for god's sake!).


good film. check it out.

Cantina / Re: Roll Call - How active are you?
« on: 05/15/18, 01:13:52 AM »
EDITED: Mispost! Ignore this!



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