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Media Gallery / Re: Squiggly's artsy things and worldbuilding
« on: 10/02/18, 07:11:23 AM »
ooh.. Karmic likes her!  Outfit and all! <3

Cantina / Re: The Next Time I'm In Town
« on: 09/27/18, 03:39:30 PM »
Karmic is as well *waves* be happy to hear from ya!

I believe there is @Koriani

Worldbuilding and Community / Re: Jedi and mental disorders
« on: 06/28/18, 08:04:34 PM »
That last sentence Orell - is where you describe the successful psychopath.

At the root of all of that narcissism, antisocialism, etc. is insecurity and pain and fear and anger. 

Compartmentalize it enough successfully and you've weaponized it. To be able to then use it, apply it, and successfully manipulate others to get what you want.  POW - you've become the successfully functioning psychopath.

Much harder to do in our own society where that doesn't mean being a successful serial killer/criminal.  But in the Sith society (and to the psychopath themselves) - that /IS/ being successful, so they'd feed it from much earlier on and becomes much easier to control.

There's no hangups to get past - no 'Issues" to get past to begin with because they (Sith...imperial born/sith taught babies anyway) are never taught to /not/ do the things or to feel guilt/ashamed/wrong to want to do them (bad things).  The insecurities of self don't start.  So there's nothing to get "over."  As it were.  No trauma perceived or resulting. 

But then I've never found the Canon Sith to BE all that interesting; most one level villains (as these were truly created to be at inception despite what they've become since) aren't.  They aren't at /all/ complete people.  But a Sith never would be - to us - they'd always be broken.  Even if to their own society they are perfect.  And its also why most people can't actually RP a "real true Sith" either, no matter how much they insist how evil they are.

And as fascinating as the concept and development of the psychopath is; once you know the pattern - is very predictable and *not fun*; actually very sad to me, IMO.  Only interesting in the case study details and not in the events as a whole.

Worldbuilding and Community / Re: Jedi and mental disorders
« on: 06/28/18, 07:52:59 AM »
edit: woopsie - ignore this!

Worldbuilding and Community / Re: Jedi and mental disorders
« on: 06/28/18, 07:52:31 AM »
Sith would DEFINITELY need to be another thread...

Its such a different mechanics of discussion on how they would handle "mental health issues."

Starting with the reality that within Sith society; they aren't mentally ill to begin with.  Because yes Squigg, much of what we consider "mental health disorders" for their society/culture would be encouraged and praised/fed.  Cultural relevance counts when you're "diagnosing" mental health issues; therefore, *we* (as in humans from this world) couldn't even consider such "personality traits" disordered.  It is also always a criteria that the set of symptoms, "create significant issues in daily life" for the individual being diagnosed, something else that would cause issues we treat as "mental illness" to be considered "normal and fine" in a Sith.  And therefore, never seen as a problem.

So yea, entirely different consideration and subject :).  Something I have talked about (at length) over the years with various players who have been interested in having the discussion.

Because no, you can't really be a Canon Sith without also being a Psychopath - and while that is not a diagnosis itself, the trifecta of personality disorders that create Psychopathology, are.  And if you aren't that type of person before you start Korriban/Sith training; you *will* become one if it doesn't kill you first.  But of course in Sith-Land, its not "psychopath" and "personality disorders" its "What we All Strive to Achieve."  So, not a disorder.

Worldbuilding and Community / Re: Jedi and mental disorders
« on: 06/26/18, 05:58:59 PM »
Wymarc, that last few sentences of yours started my mind down an interesting, on topic, query for all of this.

If you look at a lot of the (acquired) depressive/anxious mental health disorders, many people struggle with these things due to their attachments (whether to others, or in a more buddhist sense - to the "should be/should have beens/supposed to be) and the individual's sense of control - both in the level of control they believed they had over their lives before XYZ or mentalhealthdisorderA started; as well as in their sense of control in the current *aftermath* (after trauma, in the middle of dealing with mental health issueA etc.)

Its very much central to (a/our) human's sense of well being - the level of control they *perceive* they have over themselves and their lives vs. the level of control they actually have and their acceptance of this reality.

Someone who is OK with the 'lack of actual control' they have over themselves or life - tends to be less likely to have, or develop, trauma reactions/depression/anxiety/etc.

Someone who is NOT Ok with this lack of control - either before or after a trauma - is more likely to have more issues.

Huge chunks of my profession (psychiatry/psychology) is spent trying to help people be OK with the actual lack of control they have over much of anything (including their own minds) and having that not cause undue stress on their lives.

Given all of the above - one could certainly argue how the Jedi push towards less attachment/less the individual could very well lead to a psyche that was "immune" to such mental health issues.  (not counting biological/genetic issues)

Immune (or a learned immunity) to developing a PTSD/trauma reaction because it would *not* be as disruptive to their world view nor disruptive to the amount of control a Jedi believed they had.  It could/would be *literally* trained out of their minds - by the time they got to Jedi Master (?) or perhaps just for the elite of the Masters.

All being dependent on how truly successful they were at lacking attachment and believing in the power of the Force.

**Though important to note - one's strength of belief in a higher power is often challenged by the occurrence of trauma-but in a human that is because it runs into the idea that the higher power "should have/would have" stopped the trauma.  A jedi wouldn't necessarily have that immediate hangup.**

I realize not really on topic but found it a fascinating discussion exercise and something someone might want to keep in mind/keep under consideration for their own conceptualization of how this might play out in various ways.

Media Gallery / Re: Squiggly's non-insignia artsy things
« on: 06/03/18, 04:12:35 PM »
Yea it worked!

I want one.  Seriously, want that raptor.

Cantina / Re: The Absent Thread
« on: 06/02/18, 08:16:45 PM »
Thought this thing was stickied...  (IT SHOULD BE! *tag mods*  :grin: )

Posting to let people know Karmic's more-than-semi-retired.

You won't see me much around anywhere outside of Seraphie/Stell's private events in the future, maybe. 

I'm more than happy to RP with anyone who wishes to set something up one on one - my email account is linked to PMs here so I'll always know if you want to get in touch with me (for any reason).  And it always will be.  :aww:  Happy to hear from anyone who wishes to keep in touch!

But outside of that - this is my goodbye to the general community.

edited to add: Should anyone ever come around Secret World or WoW or TESO and need someone to help'em out or get them started - drop me a line! I'm always in a few online games simultaneously :)

Cantina / Re: Roll Call - How active are you?
« on: 05/11/18, 07:26:16 PM »
Cyone.  Please stop.  None of what you're talking about is the purpose of this thread.

And what you're writing (on that particular off-topic subject) isn't helping those of us already feeling alienated and/or frustrated and/or alone.  In fact, its making it worse. 

I'm happy for you that its that easy for you to find RP with.  I realize you don't believe me, or I guess others here, but its not that easy anymore for some.

So please, if you want to continue to lecture us on what we're not doing or what we're not trying - please start your own thread. 

And that's the last I'll say of that.

Cantina / Re: Roll Call - How active are you?
« on: 05/11/18, 03:28:16 PM »
Im sorry, Cyone but I think you really missed the mark with thinking the latest "drama" is what is "pushing" anyone out of anything - nothing's been blown up.  I get what you're saying, but I think you missed the point of what others are saying.

No one's talking about anything's death or demise.  Our RP numbers are down and have been for a very long time now.  This isn't news and it didn't just happen this month, or even this year.  Just as the game's numbers have been down (which is why they united servers). 

We've had all of maybe three active Sith roleplaying at all (regularly) in the last year and then some.  That isn't an exaggeration or guesstimate of time.  As one of those Sith who've been regular and active since launch, in this community - trust me, its something I've paid close attention to :).

Makes perfect sense to me that Jaade put the poll up not only to find out how many are left in our small community, but how many actual storytellers are left in the community.   

Because without storytellers you really don't have much of an RP community that RPs.  I've been a part of guilds and communities with no storyteller - its pretty dead.  RP revolves around *only* bar/cantina type RP and rarely is there a plot of any mention to be found.  It takes storytellers to give people plots and events to participate in, to color and fill the IC characters daily conversations when they go to those bar events and conversations just interacting with other Rpers.

So its quite important to know just how many storytellers are around in this community, and who they are.

And I am not one of them.  I know that about myself.  I suck at it.  I didn't grow up with tabletop gaming so its never been a mindset I could take on easily.  I didn't get into creative writing in school, so its not something I have a lot of tools for.  I can roleplay within a scene or plot given to me - I can be a great actor (IMO of course) in another's movie.  I'm just no good for coming up with actual story plots to involve others in.

I've tried - I keep trying - I just come up with zilcho nada!

But I am around - though not in a daily or even weekly sense anymore.  I'm not playing the game at all and except for a few days after new content is released, I don't play the game at all.  I don't like this game - it isn't fun.  Mechanics suck and the storyline is just as bad now.  I have no faith in bioware or EA at turning anything around as they've not showed yet they are able to do that with anything else they've done so far. 

But I don't stay around for the game anyway.  I stay around for the RP.

And I agree with Sera's post 110%.  This place has changed in the last year or so and it hasn't been for the good.

There have been very few plots to participate in, over the last couple of years.  As a whole in the community.  There have been less community events Sith side in that time and less Sith RP *at all* to be had to the point that there's almost none and has been next to nothing for over a year.

I've logged in for any events I could participate in, however far apart they were.  But outside of that I've only logged in game for scheduled RP one-on-ones, and Dancer's Palace.  And I've taken a break from that as well these last couple of weeks.

I've craved more reasons to be able to login and see anyone around Sith Side to get RP going with of any substance.  But it doesn't appear and I can't make it happen myself.  I'd love to be able to. I WISH I could.  But writing plots doesn't come from wishin'.

So I'd love to see RP events and would love to jump in with both feet.  I really hope things pick up again and people get more open with what they are doing.

But the serious lack of any RP activity to participate in and lack of plots to talk about - along with, as Sera stated, "become so frustrated and dismayed with some of the behaviour I've witnessed directly and indirectly in the community, how people are treating other people. lack of flexibility in rp, lack of proper, respectful communication" - has me questioning if the people left are people I can trust enough to RP with, anymore.

Again, like Sera stated, this isn't a pointing finger and blaming.  Its a response and explanation of my own head right now and why.

I hope it turns around.  I hope I continue to have reasons to login and find more RP to join in with.  Only time will tell that.

Outside Realm / Re: All good things...
« on: 05/03/18, 11:11:59 AM »
As one of the "oldies" left around here - you will be hugely missed Iaera.  You're presence (either partial or fully involved) has been a wonderful thing for our RP community and certainly for the Jedi faction as a whole.  And I do hate that its been drama that has made your final decision for you; even if I totally get it and am not at all surprised.

I 100% understand your post and had come to some similar conclusions about this community in the last year myself and find myself now evaluating my own presence in it and what I want (if anything) from this place next.  I quite understand the need to re-prioritize this place and deciding that its time to move on.

I wish you all the best in all the things.  I hope you con't to enjoy roleplay in your life as a stress RELIEF in some form or fashion as it serves you best.  And I hope one day our paths will cross again.

And if you choose to try again in the future I know you'll be welcomed back.  And if I'm still here then Karmic would love to buy Iaera a round of tea for her return - one of the very few Jedi Karmic actually respects.

Be good to yourself.  Live long and Prosper.  May the winds ever be at your back.  <3

nevermind - misunderstood question :)

Nevermind - cancelled signup.

BTW - Same start time as Palace night?  I'm figuring so just checkin!

Normally 9:00PM P.S.T.?

Can more players attend if we start an hour earlier?

Yes, normal start time for DP is 9 PST time.

I'm in - though I don't know how smart this is going to be... having Karmic watch Pehn in a fight...  :rage: :aww: :nuu: :darkside:

She may close her eyes.  (HA like that will help...)

BTW - Same start time as Palace night?  I'm figuring so just checkin!

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